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Summmary of lispvan July 2005 meeting

Saturday, July 23, 2005

Well, we had quite a good turnout and an excellent start for our first meeting of "lispvan", the Vancouver Lisp Users Group. There were 8 attendees with another 2 who would have liked to have come but had other commitments. The attendees were:

We had a round of introductions (and drinks) to start things off. Then Drew gave a demo of Lisp-on-Lines. It was easy to see many similarities to Ruby on Rails and it will be neat to follow the project. He admits that he needs to clean the code up a bit and still has a lot to do; however, it is easy to see the potential. As Drew said "I don't like to write app code, I like to write code that writes code" and LoL lets him create web application code in CL quite quickly. Some future enhancements that he talked about will be to add wizard support and CSS-like functionality.

I have had an interest in continuation-based web application frameworks for a while and have commented about Seaside in the past (see here, here, here, here, here, here), so it was neat to have Andrew Catton at our meeting too. I had previously exchanged a couple of emails with Avi Bryant (who developed Seaside) and had arranged to have a beer with him in August when he gets back from Europe. However, we have now tentatively agreed with Andrew (after a few beers) that Avi and Andrew will give our August lispvan meeting a presentation on Seaside. That will be really cool and I'm looking forward to hearing about Seaside "from the horse's mouth". I've played around with UnCommon Web (Marco Baringer's continuation-based web application framework that is written in CL), so it will be interesting to get the chance to compare/contrast the two. Probably a good topic for a weblog entry too! ;-)

Towards the close of the meeting, I joked with Andrew Catton that it was an "old Vancouver Lisp User Group tradition" that any Smalltalk developers who attend a meeting have to pick up the tab (in consideration for all of the Lisp concepts that influenced the design of Smalltalk). He said that it is an old Smalltalk tradition to be cheap - touché! ;-)

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